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Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Lin

Lin — Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:24:41 +0000

Excellent, saved also and thank you Jerry

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by NVKate

NVKate — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:50:07 +0000

excellent article! I’ve been saying all along they keep sweeping the hazardous effects of drugs in our horses under the carpet. This is also why we have to keep fighting to keep our wild horses free and on the range as these scoundrels sneak so many of our wild ones across the borders to slaughter!

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Suzanne Moore

Suzanne Moore — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:30:31 +0000

That is being done. http://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/horse-meat-is-ugly-campaign-launches-june-16-2012/

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Louie Cocroft

Louie Cocroft — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:11:49 +0000

This article is mentioned a couple of times (in the comments) in Vickery’s lasted article in FORBES.

Vickery Eckhoff
Forbes.com writer of 12-part series on horse slaughter and the horse industry.
Proposed Missouri Horse Slaughterhouse Mired In Lawsuits, Fraud Claims

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vickery-eckhoff/missouri-horse-slaughterhouse-fraud_b_1682822.html

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Louie Cocroft

Louie Cocroft — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:09:28 +0000

Jerry, this information is SO important. It has to be circulated. Thank you for all that you do to make life better for Horses. Don’t know how you keep going, but thank Goodness you do.

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Christie Finn

Christie Finn — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:17:29 +0000

This is even more timely considering the Reverend Charlie Stenholm’s testimony during the Texas Senate hearings regarding that drugs used in horses can be handled by waiting times. As a member of the House Agriculture Committee for 22 years, a rancher, and a Senior Policy Advisor for an agribusiness law firm that specializes in litigation FSIS violations, it is not reasonable to believe that he could be unaware that we have a National Residue Program (circa 1968) or that he fails to understand that the word residue means that not all that drug was excreted with the using and blood. He can’t get away with playing possum on this one.

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Christie Finn

Christie Finn — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:10:57 +0000

Jerry, Thank you very much for putting this together. I learned a lot and will share. I will re-read tomorrow. i wonder if you found more discussion about Iverm ectin in your research? Ivermectin is on the 2010 FSIS National Residue Program for Beef and is described as destructive to the neurological system. I found out that it disrupts the neurotransmitter GABA. Very little about these disorders is understood well, but the drugs approved by the FDA to treat the symptoms of these disorders Lyrica and Cymbalta help control pain in the CNS through affecting GABA. The fact that Ivermectin is part of the National Residue Program in beef indicates that ivermectin has been found in beef carcasses after slaughter. Based on dialogue on social media and comments on other media, pro-slaughter folks seem to think that Ivermectin in horses is harmless despite the classification of the FDA. Some of these people raise food animals. An informal survey of producers in my area indicated that at least in smaller operations, if a truck has room for a few more cows to take to the abattoir those cows will go whether they have met the full waiting period or not for Ivermectin or not. Parasites are becoming as great a problem in beef as they have been in cattle with parasite resistance increasing. I noticed that the dosage for Ivermectin for this year had increased. I do not believe that all beef producers bend the regulations or break them, but the fact that some of them are willing to makes us all vulnerable to the same kinds of illnesses we fear horse meat poses for our European allies, is alarming.

Since Ivermectin is used to treat people in what we used to call third world countries for parasites, and the fact that it may have some therapeutic effects for other conditions in humans at far smaller doses than what is used either on cows or in horses may confuse confuses the issue. Your article pointed out the concept of the therapeutic dose for a horse—which is going to be far greater than the therapeutic dose for an animal as large as a cow.

Great job! Thank you.

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Christie Finn

Christie Finn — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 05:41:17 +0000

PZP? Is this the same compound Dr. James Kirkpatrick has been using to control mammalian fertility in zoo animals and wild horses and burros? It is derived from pig urine and based on Dr. Kirkpatrick’s presentation at IEC only affects fertilization of the horse by creating an covering around the female’s egg making it impossible for the sperm to penetrate the egg. It was my understanding that the PZP that Dr. Kirkpatrick developed did not affect the mare’s hormonal functions or other body systems in any other way. However, since zoo animals and wild horses and burros are not supposed to be slaughtered for food, one would wonder what the EPA’s decision is based on. Since Dr. Kirkpatrick no longer has control over the way the drug is used, it may be being compounded differently, but I thought one of its selling points was that it affected so little of the horse’s other physiological systems. I am suspicious of anything that is put out as science by the Department of Interior and the BLM particularly as it affects our wild horses and burros. While it is possible I missed a point, I had read about the subject prior to the presentation and had the opportunity to ask questions and listen to others who had questions and Dr. Kirkpatrick’s answers.

PZP has been tested in mammals for 20 years and has proven to be safe and effective as a means of population control. I would like to understand how it is considered a pesticide. Does this mean that Interior and the BLM consider controlling the birth of wild burros and horses equivalent to controlling mosquitos and rodents?

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by jean

jean — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 03:54:35 +0000

We can’t thank you enough, Jerry for putting together such a powerful and factual report on the comsumption of horsemeat and it’s consequences. It’s imperative this information be available to the public everywhere horse slaughter plant advocates desire to open, as well as; foreign countries who have an interest in it. With this knowledge, I would like to think the majority of Americans would never support this inhumane and brutal business and be a strong voice for opposing it. We can make a difference in the lives of these majestic creatures and we must for the health and welfare of consumers. Great report!

Comment on Horsemeat and Drugs by Kerry

Kerry — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:48:35 +0000

“Doctors recommend it, especially for people with heart problems.” Really? Leeches were once considered healthy treatments too. That sounds like something out of the Middle Ages. Thank you for the excellent thesis…..